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Comment by Debra on November 17, 2009 at 6:43pm

georgia - is Leasha, or Beadholden the name used in our membership list or do I look somewhere else for her?

Comment by Debra on November 17, 2009 at 6:41pm

There are great tutorials/manual for everything except the publishing features of BC. I have downloaded, printed, read, studied all those and have made quite good friends with the program EXCEPT for the publishing part. Oh well, I'm taking a deep breath and a chill pill. I have plenty to do, and on further pondering, wonder exactly what it is I hope to accomplish anyway.
Thank you to you all, happy beading, and if you are inclined to observe the holidays, Happy Thanksgiving!

Comment by georgia grisolia on November 17, 2009 at 9:27am

I confess to not knowing if there is an actual manual on the BCP4 publishers which is what I am using. You may like to send a note to Andrew about that. I do know that there is a folder in My Documents (Windows app the one before Vista) called Books that was generated by the BC software but is empty. I have never actually tried to export to it. Now my good friend, Lesha who is also known as Beadholden, has worked some with the present program and has managed to write directions/instructions into her pdf files and I have been to lazy to spend the time to play around and learn how to do all the other wonderful things that it can do. I am stuck in a rut and admit it, ha ha. It is a goal to one day educate myself and try out other things.
I actually went to the LULU.com site and set up some books of Christmas ornaments there using their system but no sales so that may have been a waste of time. Oh well, does not cost anything to sit there.
I would say to keep on trying with your pics. I use a free software download program called "Irfan" to play and manage my pics and find it very usefull for getting a good looking pic. You may want to get that for yourself. It is a photo management program and you can use it for all sorts of things besides beads.
Good luck and keep on....

Comment by Debra on November 17, 2009 at 7:14am

You all are so great! Forums here are always so much more informative/supportive and positive in general. I have to confess to a rather low frustration level I guess - too impatient! I agree with not controlling anything once the pattern is theirs, I am just having a hard time getting it to look at great as the listings you folks have on your sites. I don't ever plan on being big business, I just want to pay for my beading "habit"!

I still have never seen info/documentation on publishing features of our BCP program. I guess continuing to beat that drum will get me nowhere so I'll throw the stick away!

Comment by georgia grisolia on November 16, 2009 at 12:21pm

Thanks, Donna, for the compliment but partly that is taking care of my own blood pressure, ha ha.
I do love that idea of "Art Karma" and you know that is true enough.

I have found that it is so much easier and healthier to do right than to go sneaking around the wrong way. People say it is so hard to be good. Well, I beg to differ. Seems like it would take lots more energy, if nothing else, to do the wrong things. Just take lying for example, one has to be always remembering what was said before and you know the old saying about the tangled web being woven. Seems to trip people up in the end. Being good is the easy way to my way of thinking.

There will always be a way for the crooked to take advantage and so I prefer to not worry about the whole thing. I put up JPGs and large enough to see well and what someone wants to do with it is their problem and on their conscience.

Would rather take time to smell the roses than worry about the fertilizer, tee hee!

Comment by Donna Zattau on November 16, 2009 at 11:08am

Lynne,
Thanks for my Monday AM giggle. Art Karma it is.........there always has been and always will be people who have no remorse in taking what is not theirs to take. There is an official name for them. Art Karma is a much better way of dealing with such folks, no going after them with letters, etc. will ever change them.
Georgia is a fine person giving them credit for wanting something without the ability to pay for it and I'll bet that is true in many cases........the need for some bit of beauty in one's life without the ability to get it otherwise.
Short of being rich and famous, I don't believe there is any enforcement available to us in the long run, easier to do our best and not stress.
Donna

Comment by Lynne Ambrosino on November 16, 2009 at 7:42am

I subscribe to "Art Karma." I have a statement on all my patterns that says they may not be sold and ask for credit for the design if the items are sold. I haven't the energy or means to follow up on any of that. I just think that if you steal stuff, no matter what it is, "Art Karma" will bite you in the butt sooner or later.

Comment by Bonnie from Beaded Banners by Bonnie on November 16, 2009 at 6:38am

Georgia, we were writing at about the same time I guess. I didn't see your response when I responded.

I agree..........and basically my statement says the same thing on my website. Once someone purchases the pattern I do not feel (unlike others) that I can limit what banners they make from the patterns. I DO however feel I can keep people from selling my pattern. It is mine, I designed it, and it is MY property. Can I stop them from sharing it? Probably but it's not worth it. I have to hope that most people are honest.

But the whole reason I have designed over 200 patterns is because the person I bought from before said I couldn't make banners to sell from the patterns I purchased from her. Okay, that's b.s. So I said see ya.........bought BCP.........and design my own. I will NOT limit my customers on what they can make from my patterns once they buy the pattern. But I will make them feel guilty if they share the pattern with others free by the statements on each page of my patterns.

Comment by Bonnie from Beaded Banners by Bonnie on November 16, 2009 at 6:34am

When I have the pattern open in BCP I do a screen print of it, paste that to Paint, and then crop it. I then reduce the size of it (using PixResizer a free program) to small enough that people can see the the pattern good enough to decide if they want it but not so they can see each bead and copy the pattern from their screen. Again, once they purchase the pattern there is nothing stopping people from sharing it with friends. But I'm not just going to GIVE it to them on the screen.

Comment by georgia grisolia on November 16, 2009 at 6:28am

You know, all this concern about people making copies and trying to make sure they don't......this does not bother me at all. There will always be some who will take advantage and basically steal patterns. I can't worry about them. Most people are honest and will buy the design and I work for them. The others will experience justice in another place. If you read my statement on the Etsy shop it says you may make as many items as you like and sell them but not the pattern itself. Still, there is no way to enforce that either if you want to get real so I refuse to get bent out of shape over the issue. Enough to worry about in life without this detail added on. Just my opinion.

Enjoy and not to stress is the best.

Another way to look at the issue is they must have really, really liked it and had to have it and maybe could not pay......see what I mean?

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